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[1.16] Medal Balancing: All 3 heroes [Copy this link to quote]

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dogempire Post time: 2013-07-01 09:48:01 |Show all posts
This update put a pretty big gap between the Berserker and the Bethemoth, why? High evasion and 100+ attack for the berserker, overpowered much?
Plus the medal for zerk is perfect for him while the other ones are eh, not that great.

I just want to make a suggestion on how to improve the medals a little bit.

Succubus: Dizzy hit(the same) and Accuracy (1% per level)

Behemoth: Fortification/resist (still the same) and 1 defense per level

Zerker: Extra attack and Evasion for each level

I believe extra defense would close the gap between the Behemoth and the Berserker and make the behemoth stand a better chance against the Succubus, while the succubus can counter the high evasion the zerker gets.

So what do you think? (though Jsoor's behemoth would be even more overpowered with 31 defense with full gear. >.>) Behemoth defense can be countrered with frailty gems though.
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tygron Post time: 2013-07-01 09:59:31 |Show all posts
i like the succubus idea alot

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dogempire Post time: 2013-07-01 10:05:56 From the mobile phone |Show all posts
tygron replied at 2013-07-01 09:59
i like the succubus idea alot

I like the Behemoth idea. He needs those extra defense points.

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Bboy_Omni Post time: 2013-07-01 10:09:58 |Show all posts
:-)
now, before i said anything, i just want people not to comment i'm a zerk user or whatever, because i talk about logical stat, not heroes.

for behemoth medals, +1 defense.
you know how costly defense honors is right?
it's because 1 defense could cut about 20 damage every second :-)
compare it to 1 attack that only effect 1 unit(except behemoth that will effect 2)

+1 defense is crazy, i know there's frailty gem, but seriously it's not fair for other hero, +0,5 defense every level is acceptable, not +1 defense,
just make an example,
lvl 9 medal behemoth have 10 more defense than berserker and 11 more than succubus.
let's make every second there's 1-2 attack coming, that cut 20 damage already, let's count 4, that cut 40 damage "every second"
just count how many damage it cut from a minute, 2400 damage!(counting there's only 4unit that HIT THE HERO)

you're not giving a reasonable boost for behemoth medal,
i don't mind if camel give 100-200more hp each medal lvl for behemoth, but +1 defense? you gotta joking me :)

for succubus, +1 accuracy is nice each lvl, but i wonder, will you love male heroes not able to touch succubus at all? lol just put a lot of mages around the succubus, male combo will never touch succubus(except they implement your idea about behemoth medals that will always make him immortal)

for berserker,
if everyone keep babbling about evasion and attack being overpowered, fine,
get rid of his evasion and attack, :) give him -1 attack and -1 evasion for each medal lvl, i don't mind because we should think how to counter opponent form, not babbling about how bad your heroes is.

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jeoffrey  you should be a little camel  Post time 2013-08-09 04:24:00
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stevewdw Post time: 2013-07-01 10:11:02 |Show all posts
+1 defense for moth is overpower.. others are ok..

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dogempire Post time: 2013-07-01 10:15:50 |Show all posts
stevewdw replied at 2013-07-01 10:11
+1 defense for moth is overpower.. others are ok..

And attack for Zerker isn't?

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dogempire Post time: 2013-07-01 10:18:02 |Show all posts
Edited by dogempire at 2013-07-01 10:22
Bboy_Omni replied at 2013-07-01 10:09
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now, before i said anything, i just want people not to comment i'm a zerk user or whatever, beca ...

That's true, but Behemoth IS supposed to be a tank hero, if he has 2 more defense than Zerk he isn't much of a TANK, now is he?
Edit: I haven't seen anyone with a level 10 medal yet.

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jeoffrey  a tank?? is he really suppose to be a tank( just cuz his the ugliest of the hero)  Post time 2013-08-09 04:26:06
Bboy_Omni  tank for 2400 damage? are you asking for a tank or asking for immortal hero? :)  Post time 2013-07-01 10:19:44

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dogempire Post time: 2013-07-01 10:20:44 |Show all posts
Defense can be disabled with frailty gems just so you know.

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Bboy_Omni Post time: 2013-07-01 10:25:38 |Show all posts
Edited by Bboy_Omni at 2013-07-01 09:30
dogempire replied at 2013-07-01 09:18
That's true, but Behemoth IS supposed to be a tank hero, if he has 2 more defense than Zerk he isn ...

i do agree current moth medals suck,
need better buff.

0,5 defense is pretty reasonable, and thats already cut 1200damage
not to mention there's more resistance to cut of frailty gems dizzy gems and poison gems which mean cutting dps by more.

i just dislike how you make +1 attack and +1 defense equal
if you're truly asking for a tank,
you could ask for more hp and more resistance or +0,5 defense each lvl, but +1 defense, i don't know how to say how smart it is :-)

oh yeah, just to give fact, the current behemoth medals could survive 6-8 more attacks counting the medal is lvl 6 with standard gears set :)

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dogempire Post time: 2013-07-01 10:27:24 |Show all posts
Edited by dogempire at 2013-07-01 10:32
Bboy_Omni replied at 2013-07-01 10:25
i do agree current moth medals suck,
need better buff.

How much evasion does the Zerker medal give per level anyways?

.5 defense doesn't seem reasonable because you can't have .5 defense, unless they came up with some other solution.

Eitehr way you can argue the same with the Zerker and his evasion rate, assuming he gets 1.5% per level he gets 15% extra evasion at level 10, which stacks with a level 6 agility gem which is who knows how much evasion, I guess you could argue if he got hit for 100 hits in 1 minute 15 of them would be dodged with just the medal, and 50%+ evasion with dual level 6 gems and level 10 medal hardly seems fair at all.

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Bboy_Omni  lol, i just noticed you said lvl 6 gems  Post time 2013-08-14 16:11:43

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